Roe v. Wade, Good For Something After All

The ammendment that forbid federal funds from paying for abortions in the current healthcare bills caused a huge outcry from abortion rights groups. Go to any story on the subject and read comments and you will see dozens of comments along the lines of this infringing on their rights, no one has a right to tell them what they can or can't do with their body.

After reading this it occured to me that Roe v Wade may finally have a benefit, though nothing can make up for the millions of innocent lives it has taken to date. The Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade on the fact that making abortion illegal imposed a violation on an individuals right to privacy. The Court tells a woman that killing her unborn child is a private decision that cannot be impeeded by the government then why is it okay for the government to tell me what health insurance I have to have, tell my employer they have to provide it for me, fine me if I don't get it and possibly put me in jail any different? Where is my right to privacy where my health care decisions are concerned?

This is the perfect logical argument that liberals don't understand. The law applies to everyone, not just the liberal cause of the week. Liberal hypocrisy on the march again. If I don't have a right to make my own individual healthcare choices without government involvement than no one else should also. These health care bills should be challenged using Roe v. Wade as precedent (let them argue that one, it's a conservative win either way) and the Equal Protection Clause as the factor to consider the case.

The MSM is Illiterate

Folks, I am not the best writer you can find on the internet. Read my blog and I am sure you can find spelling and grammar errors. I can however read a sentence and understand it but apparently the MSM cannot. Sarah Palin's death panel comments have created a whirlwind of controversy in the press but all of the networks and pundits are misrepresenting what she actually said. They are ridiculing her statement by saying that end of life counseling is voluntary and does not decide to kill people and was actually included in the bill by a Republican. Guess what? THEY ARE RIGHT!

Sarah Palin has never made a statemnet refuting those facts. Her statement about the death panel was refering to what the results of rationing health care to control results would be. Nowhere in her statement did she mention the counseling arena. Her exact words were:

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.
Even I can see the lack of reference to end of life counseling and can figure out that she is referring to what will eventually come when the government continues to have trouble paying for their utopian health care sysytem. This does not require a PHD in English to understand. If I can read and understand this, then the reporters, commentators, and pundits spewing the lies about the context of Gov. Palins statement need to write to the universities they attended and demand a refund!

To Mob Or Not To Mob--UPDATED

It's official. I can't decide what to be angry about, who to be proud of, what to rant about, or what to calmly debate about anymore. There is officially too much going on for me to keep it straight and call me a waffler if you want, my mind changes on how I feel about things hourly.

I am still convinced that any program that makes the federal government more prevalent in our lives is a bad thing so I am consistent with my view that "insert liberal buzzword" reform is bad.

I posted previously that Sarah Palin was wrong when she posted that we shouldn't do things that made us look bad or gave the opposition reason to ridicule us or marginalize our opinions. I owe Gov. Palin an apology, that moron that wore the gun to the Presidents town hall made everyone look bad and no amount of disowning him that I have seen on other posts (http://ace.mu.nu/) can separate him from us in the minds of people who saw it. He has the legal right to own and carry that weapon but injecting some common sense into the situation might help.

I saw a couple of videos that showed opponents to the "healthcare, insurance" reform reading calmly from a list of concerns at these town hall meetings and I was impressed with the way they summed up there concerns with calm and respect. I wish that our concerns could be addressed in this manner all the time and get the due attention it deserves but if anyone out there thinks that a conservative calmly asking his questions from a sheet of paper would have gotten air time on CNN prior to the more vocal demonstration of discontent than there is no hope for rational dialogue with you.

I have to give grudging respect to the members of Congress still holding town hall meetings and not following the examples of some of the chickens. McCaskill and Specter both held them and listened to the people in the meetings. Of course after hearing them they still spewed forth the same nonsense, non-answers, and supposed facts without evidential proof. It is easy to say you will not vote for or sign something that adds to the deficit or debt when your math is flawed to begin with and you ignore the CBO when their math states that these plans will most definitely add to the deficit.

There is an idiot on MSNBC named Carlos Watson that has tried to back up the liberal standard that anything conservatives oppose is racism. He tried to equate conservatives use of the word socialism to a new code for the N-word. In his words, "what concerns me is when in some of those town hall meetings including the one that we saw in Missouri recently where there were jokes made about lynching, etc., you start to wonder whether in fact the word socialist is becoming a code word, whether or not socialist is becoming the new N-word for frankly for some angry upset birthers and others."
Mr. Watson, you sir, need to pick up a dictionary, look up the word socialist, and then take a look at every action the President and this Congress has taken since January and admit that the word is being in the correct context and then apologize on air for opening your mouth without thinking about the impact of your statement.

The same goes for the mindless liberal on CNN, McCafferty. The idiot was reading Sarah Palins post calling for calm from healthcare opponents and had to stop multiple times and go "ooh big words". Then he goes to compare her description of healthcare in a previous post and the call for calm in this one as being mutually exclusive? She can't think that this plan is bad for seniors and think that some aspects of it are evil and call for civil discourse at the same? How does he think that makes any sense? Am I supposed to take this guy seriously? Is this news? Is he really so drunk on the Kool-Aid that he can't objectively take a step back and see how sexist, elitist, and ridiculous he sounds?

And Obama once again summed up concerns that we have anytime the Federal Government takes on a program by saying that UPS and FEDEX are doing just fine, its the Post Office that is always having problems. Thanks BO! That instills me with much needed confidence that my health is in the good hands of an entity that can't even deliver mail efficiently.

I could keep going but I will just leave you with this:

"Repeal that [welfare] law, and you will soon see a change in their manners. St. Monday and St. Tuesday, will soon cease to be holidays. Six days shalt thou labor, though one of the old commandments long treated as out of date, will again be looked upon as a respectable precept; industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them."

--Benjamin Franklin, letter to Collinson, 1753


I would like to thank Paul for his comments to this post and respond to some of his points. Paul's mistake is that he has succumbed to the same failed logic that most liberals have and that is buying into DNC talking points about these protests not being grassroots, in reality he is listening to what someone else told him about the reason for the protests and is repeating it without thinking about it. I have not had any organization tell me what to say or how to think and a large majority of the people you see on TV have not either.
Paul is right in that ordinary circumstances yelling and screaming would be counterproductive, but without those outbursts we would be cruising through summer with the MSM force feeding us the positive spin on health care without pointing out any arguments against it. As for his point about Veterans, unless he is one like myself and has had to deal with the complete and total failures the VA has had in regards to veterans he shouldn't go there. As far as Medicaid and Medicare go, give me a break, those are two shining examples of inefficiency and cost overruns and have been running over budget for years. Paul, you will find very few of us that don't agree that reforms are required, where we disagree is the governments involvement, paying for it, and lack of tort reform measures.
Paul, please exam closely the reactions of your own party before you start making accusations that make you look like an Obamabot. Everything we are doing right now to oppose health care came straight out of the democrats handbook, forced on us due to a party in control that will not listen to our concerns (Sound familiar anti-war folks? By the way, there is still a war going on, where are you now?). Liberals created the art of protests, screaming down opponents and labeling to make their points. As far as the birthers go, those crazy little goons are as credible as the AWOLERS during the Bush Administration. Next time you have problems with protests, even ones you think are organized, remember your words the next time PETA terrorizes people trying to eat at a McDonald's, or Greenpeace keeps commercial fisherman from feeding their families, or any number of other ORGANIZED DEMOCRATIC PARTY protests...We sure will.

Dangerous Lessons

As I have said before on this blog, I love Sarah Palin. I think she is a woman with a true conservative platform that could lead this country in the right direction. It is hard for me to be critical of her but I have taken shots at the MSM for not being balanced so here it goes.

Sarah Palin is wrong.

In a posting on her Facebook page Gov. Palin stated that "we must stick to a discussion of the issues and not get sidetracked by tactics that can be accused of leading to intimidation or harassment. Such tactics diminish our nation’s civil discourse which we need now more than ever because the fine print in this outrageous health care proposal must be understood clearly and not get lost in conscientious voters’ passion to want to make elected officials hear what we are saying. Let’s not give the proponents of nationalized health care any reason to criticize us. "

While I understand that her message is to conduct yourself like an adult. What I think she might not understand is that we are not dealing with adults. Congress and the administrations has not listened to civil protest when we tried to tell them we didn't want massive bailouts of the banks and auto industry, didn't hear that we didn't want programs placed that would inevitably lead to higher taxes for middle class Americans and government interference with our daily lives, didn't care about any of it and dismissed those civil protests as inconsequential and turned a name meant to convey an idea and belief into a nasty sexual innuendo to throw back at us.

Is it any surprise that we have learned that to get these peoples attention you have to be loud and ugly to get through the shield of elitism? Gov. Palin may not realize that in these peoples world, normal people do not matter! We are a mass of ignorant savages to them and the only way that they are going to care about the widespread discontent over socialized medicine is to make them scared. Scared not for their personal safety but of their way of life. These Democrats are used to high speed lifestyles, government transportation, a fawning press corp giving them lots of TV time. If they wake up and realize that it is very likely to create a huge backlash and get them voted out of all those perks they have enjoyed than these protests will have worked. Unfortunately, we have learned the only way to wake up a liberal is too yell very loudly before they hear you. We learned but it was the liberals who taught us these dangerous lessons.

At this point we no longer care about giving the enemy reason to criticize us. We have tried civil debate and failed. We do not want to sit on our hands quietly criticizing something that will pass through congress without being completely read or understood by most members and the public. People concerned about this should continue to be loud and vocal until a promise is made to slow down the process, discuss the details and make sure it is understood.

The liberals need to understand that assurances made by them concerning what is and is not going to be in the health care bill are meaningless when the other side is using facts and specific passages from legislation to show us what is in the bill. Not until the President does one of his daily television appearances and states that he has heard the will of the people he works for and will slow down and reasonably discuss with and work with everyone can we return to civilized discussion. When you are not heard you talk louder!

Community of Dissent

I would like to thank the people who have viewed and encouraged my efforts to get involved and share my point of view through this blog. Some of my friends at my Amazon.com discussion group, despite us probably having wildly divergent ideas politically, have been very supportive. We don't discuss politics there, it's not the place for it.

The support I have seen from other conservative bloggers has been tremendous! First and foremost was the quick and professional manner that Clifton B. took the time to view my blog and offer invaluable advice on how to improve it. He also went out of his way to recommend other people stop by here and take a look around. Having feedback from experienced people cannot be overlooked, especially from those whose own blogs are extremely well written and widely regarded with admiration. I think that it is unlikely that anyone on this site has not heard of him or been to his blog but on the bizarre chance that you haven't please go take a look at

http://anotherblackconservative.blogspot.com/

He will supply relevant information from an important point of view.

Lastly I would like to thank the editor of American Thinker, Thomas Lifson, for reviewing an article submission for me. American Thinker is one of the best sites for articles and blogs on the internet and you know if one of your submissions are posted there then your writing is top notch. I know I am not up to their standard yet but the fact that they are willing to review submissions from a newcomer gives me hope that someday I will be able to articulate my viewpoint in the most effective manner possible.

I am proud to be one of the newest members of the community of dissent and would encourage all people who stop and read these blogs to put their own voice out there to be heard. Regardless of your background, education level, vocabulary, or writing ability your voice is important and deserves to be heard. If you are new to this, stop by and let me know. I would enjoy reading your posts and returning the same kindness and references that have been extended to me.

Elderly Dissent Silenced

I would urge everyone to read this great article by Susan Prince that was published on American Thinker. It does a great job of humanizing the people being demonized by the administration and the steps they are willing to take to silence people who oppose their plan to remake this country into a place I won't recognize and no longer be proud of!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/town_hall_in_texas.html

Letter to the White House

This is a copy of the email I sent to the informer email set up by the gestapo at the White House:

Dear Secret Police,
Just the simple fact that this email exists and the manner in which it is being used is disgusting. This is more threatening to me and my civil liberties than anything the Bush Administration tried to do, and believe me, there were a lot of things they did that I felt infringed on my freedom. Next it will be an email address for turning in people that use more fuel than the government allows or for people who aren't recycling. We may even have to turn in those selfish people who pay for and like their current coverage. Those self centered people believe that, even if your claims of being able to keep it are true, that they shouldn't have to pay for everyone else's insurance through government subsidization. Whatever happened to the America where you work hard for what you have and earned the lifestyle this country is envied for? You want to reduce the cost of health care and cover everyone? Start with Tort reform and then decrease the amount of "uninsured Americans" by enforcing our immigration laws and deporting the millions of illegal aliens that you keep including in your count. Admit this was a mistake that makes you look like the Gestapo and remove this email site and any evidence that it ever existed.

Charley Helvy